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PostPosted: November 16 2009, 13:35 PM 
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Floyd Mayweather says he is ready for a mega-money fight with Manny Pacquiao and believes the new WBO welterweight champion is "one-dimensional".

Pacquiao cemented his claim to be the best pound-for-pound fighter on the planet when he stopped Miguel Cotto in Las Vegas on Sunday.

Immediately after the Pac Man's triumph at the MGM Grand Garden Arena, trainer Freddie Roach put Mayweather in the Filipino's sights.

But Mayweather has already upped the stakes ahead of any match-up, saying the Filipino lacks the variety to trouble him.

In an exclusive interview with Sky Sports' Adam Smith, the American said: "The thing is with Pacquiao I don't see any versatility as a fighter; he's a good puncher but just one-dimensional."

Mayweather also believes he is on a hiding to nothing in taking on the fight and would be expected to win easily.

"I'm in a no-win situation. If I beat Manny Pacquiaodo you know what they are going to say? 'You are supposed to beat him, you are Floyd Mayweather, you are the bigger man'. If I knock him out they'll say 'you're supposed to knock him out he's been knocked out before'.

"I'm in a no-win situation and when I beat him no one is going to be surprised because he's been beaten before; whatever I do to Pacquiao has been done before - he's been beaten on three occasions. And if I knock him out I don't want the world shouting because he's been knocked out twice before.
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"The world's going to go 'wow' if Floyd Mayweather gets beaten. That's what everyone is looking to see."

Pacquiao was reticent to talk about his plans for future fights in the immediate aftermath of his victory over Cotto, saying: "My job is to fight in the ring and I think that depends on (Top Rank's Bob) Arum my promoter to negotiate that fight. I'm just going to take a vacation first and spend time with my family and have fun."

Mayweather thinks the Filipino is running scared.

"When they asked Manny Pacquiao 'would you like to fight Floyd Mayweather' he said talk to my promoter; they didn't ask your promoter they asked you, what do you want to do?

"Manny Pacquiaowas asked the same question 'do you want to fight Floyd Mayweather' three times. This is something the world is trying to force on him. If he wants to fight Floyd Mayweather all he has to do is step up to the plate."

What is certain is should the fight go ahead, both men will enjoy a bumper pay-day although publicly Mayweather has said he would only fight Pacquiao if he got the lion's share of any purse.

And should the two men meet, the man who now calls himself 'Money' knows he will be in for another cash windfall.

"If I go out and make $60-75million in one night; come on - I'm not losing."


Mayweathers mouthing off Pacman this may mean that the fight is gonna happen and by the way i disagree that pacman is one dimensional, but i think Mayweather will prevail if they fight.


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if he wanted to fight unbeaten guys why not face a pre margo cotto? A pre-quintana Williams (who lets be honest more than redeemed himself)...

Still can't see the fight personally i just think people viewing pacman as the #1 grates on him


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dunne_and_dusted wrote:
Mayweather thinks the Filipino is running scared.

"When they asked Manny Pacquiao 'would you like to fight Floyd Mayweather' he said talk to my promoter; they didn't ask your promoter they asked you, what do you want to do?."


Just recently after Floyd Mayweather had beaten Juan Manuel Marquez, Max Kellerman asked Floyd Mayweather if he wanted to face Manny Pacquiao next. Floyd Mayweather would not give an answer, and instead said that he'd leave that up to Lenoard Ellerbe and Al Hayman to sort out. That he was a fighter and he'll fight who they put in front of him.

Floyd can't critisize Pacquiao for doing exactly the same thing He did.


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the notion that pacquaio is running scared, when in succession he faced de la hoya who was expected to be absolutely massive in comparison, hatton at his best weight as the recognised #1 at 140, and then miguel cotto, is laughable.

especially from a man who looked like he'd shat his pants when he was called out by shane mosley.


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If Pacquiao is "one dimensional" then I'm pretty sure his one dimension would wipe the floor with Mayweather.
Pacquiao to me, just looks unbeatable right now.
Cotto tried to do the roughhouse and was having a bit of success but never even for a full round, and was dropped...he tried to outbox Pacquiao and again, was having success, but Manny eventually caught up to him.
He is too fast, too strong, and has a great chin and defence.
Mayweather is more one dimensional than Manny ever has been, because he only boxes off the back foot and looks to counter in combinations.
If he ever gets in the ring with Manny, he can expect to be backed up for the full fight, and although I suspect he will have some success in finding his target initially, Manny just doesn't stop coming, and will be a nightmare for Floyd.
Even the best defensive boxers in the world get caught up with eventually.
Manny has no fear and that's what sets him apart from Mayweather imo.
I fancied Cotto's chances before Saturday. Now I really don't see anyone beating Pacquiao.
I put the Hatton win down to Ricky's fading punch resistance, and never really gave him the credit he deserved for a sensational victory.
He is stepping up to the plate against top top fighters, something Floyd doesn;t do nearly near often enough.


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iamasadlittleboy wrote:
if he wanted to fight unbeaten guys why not face a pre margo cotto? A pre-quintana Williams (who lets be honest more than redeemed himself)...

Still can't see the fight personally i just think people viewing pacman as the #1 grates on him


I told you Floyd wouldn't say quiet... should've bet on it :lol:

I always thought he could've beaten Cotto, but I mean if he didn't fight him can't really talk about it can ya? And Williams... no want wants to fight him, even then. I've never heard any of these 147 guys talk about Williams. It's amazing.


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Martin wrote:
dunne_and_dusted wrote:
Mayweather thinks the Filipino is running scared.

"When they asked Manny Pacquiao 'would you like to fight Floyd Mayweather' he said talk to my promoter; they didn't ask your promoter they asked you, what do you want to do?."


Just recently after Floyd Mayweather had beaten Juan Manuel Marquez, Max Kellerman asked Floyd Mayweather if he wanted to face Manny Pacquiao next. Floyd Mayweather would not give an answer, and instead said that he'd leave that up to Lenoard Ellerbe and Al Hayman to sort out. That he was a fighter and he'll fight who they put in front of him.

Floyd can't critisize Pacquiao for doing exactly the same thing He did.


Well if you notice before pacquiao was with Arum he used to say that.... these are what I call "Arum answers". All his Top Rank fighters answer that "my promoter will pick them for me".


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brooklynbrawler wrote:
If Pacquiao is "one dimensional" then I'm pretty sure his one dimension would wipe the floor with Mayweather.
Pacquiao to me, just looks unbeatable right now.
Cotto tried to do the roughhouse and was having a bit of success but never even for a full round, and was dropped...he tried to outbox Pacquiao and again, was having success, but Manny eventually caught up to him.
He is too fast, too strong, and has a great chin and defence.
Mayweather is more one dimensional than Manny ever has been, because he only boxes off the back foot and looks to counter in combinations.
If he ever gets in the ring with Manny, he can expect to be backed up for the full fight, and although I suspect he will have some success in finding his target initially, Manny just doesn't stop coming, and will be a nightmare for Floyd.
Even the best defensive boxers in the world get caught up with eventually.
Manny has no fear and that's what sets him apart from Mayweather imo.
I fancied Cotto's chances before Saturday. Now I really don't see anyone beating Pacquiao.
I put the Hatton win down to Ricky's fading punch resistance, and never really gave him the credit he deserved for a sensational victory.
He is stepping up to the plate against top top fighters, something Floyd doesn;t do nearly near often enough.


To be fair... how many thought Mayweather was scared of Hatton on this board?

I don't think he's scared, I just think he looks to the money wayyyyy to much, and is to stubborn to realize the importance of these kind of fights.

Hatton was definitely an impressive vicotry for Pacquaio, but at the same time didn't explain much, more that Hatton was done. Oscar was drained, but this one ws very impressive because although Cotto could've fought better in my eyes with a better strategy, this was not a fighter who's contemplating retirement like Hatton and Oscar.


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knock-out-ned wrote:
the notion that pacquaio is running scared, when in succession he faced de la hoya who was expected to be absolutely massive in comparison, hatton at his best weight as the recognised #1 at 140, and then miguel cotto, is laughable.

especially from a man who looked like he'd shat his pants when he was called out by shane mosley.


Hardly, didnt you see the clip where Shane was using every excuse under the sun not to fight Floyd (even a loose tooth came into the equation lol )

And Floyd is right, he'd get no props for beating Pac.

I remember Hatton was the biggest threat to him and people claimed he needed to fight him to earn props and he did, then won and then was discredited.


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Floyd is the fighter people love to hate, but he does have to fight Pacquiao now.

He'll get more credit in beating Pacquiao over everyone else. Because everyone is noticing Pacquiao right now, not the way they were noticing Hatton.


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The way Pacquiao dealt with Cotto, I don't think anyone in their right mind would devalue a Maywether victory. So if McBride and LRR could just clarify their positions, that should be everyone :lol:


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Floyd would pick him apart with precision similar to what he did to Marquez and peeps will claim he ran and spoiled

take that to the bank ;)


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The one thing I did notice about Saturday's fight - Pacquiao didn't seem all that effective at cutting off the ring when Cotto got on his bike - he looked like Eastman against Hopkins or Froch against Dirrell.


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gavpowell wrote:
The one thing I did notice about Saturday's fight - Pacquiao didn't seem all that effective at cutting off the ring when Cotto got on his bike - he looked like Eastman against Hopkins or Froch against Dirrell.


If there was a flaw in the performance... that was it.

I noticed that too, Cotto was back pedaling for 6 rounds straight and Pacquiao was not doing well at that.

He is used to have a guy stick right in front of him. Marquez boxed but was still right in front of him. Floyd won't do that, Floyd will move around a lot just like Manny. He wont' stay still.


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I am so happy about hearing this. Mayweather is mouthing off, great, this means pretty much the fight is gonna happen because he can´t back out now he has claimed Pac is one dimensional.


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