I was thinking the other day about how certain trainers seem to do the rounds once they've gained a reputation. What sparked this was reading about Khan being Freddie Roaches 25th world champion trained. Many of the best trainers seem to have worked themselves to the top on the back of one particular fighter, one they've been with from the beginning. Roach had Manny, Floyd Snr had Floyd Jnr, Steward had Hearns.

I have no doubt that they're excellent trainers, but my question really is, would we have ever heard of them if it hadn't been for their marquee fighters? Is it down to their talents that they made it to the top of their game, or are there hundreds of trainers just as good out there and those guys just "struck gold"?

I'm sure its a mix of both Poztin - they are clearly good trainers given their sustained success with good fighters but at the same time there are probably other very good trainers out there who never come into contact with the first great fighter to make their name and give them a claim that they've got something to offer to other potentially great fighters.

To get to the top a fighter is usually willing to try anything. Look at Taylor ditching his schoolboy trainer for Steward, only to go back there when it was all going wrong.

I think sometimes it can be beneficial to have a "top" trainer. Just look at what Roach seems to have done to Khan for example.

I think it depends entirely on what sort of a fighter you are. If your an standard Boxer, say along the lines of Bernard Hopkins, then you can train with pretty much anybody and still be good. if your a specialist in a certain type of Boxing though, say Floyd, then you need to be with a trainer like Floyd Sr. or Uncle Roger, who will help you improve on that game.

At the end of the day a good trainer is only as good as the fighter that theyve got in the ring though.

I think at the end of the day a trainer is just that, a trainer.

It's a balance of things. You're right Hopkins is a good example of just being the fighter he is... same goes for guys like Jones... you never really heard who their trainer was.

Nazim Richardson really showed up in Mosley's fight, and Mosley had switched a couple of trainers during his career.

A trainer can fix certain things but I mean, if the fighter has the ABILITY to fix it, that's the major issue.